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I am thinking of developing an application with Camel Routes - with SpringBoot. the nature of application is not merely application integration but this is an application to manage security roles against ROLES/ GROUPS for Resources.
Most use cases of camel routes indicates integration. But this is a case of pure application development which includes CRUD operations (dat stored in RDBMs) on Access Information and exposing these abilities as ReST services. Could you suggest whether is the approach good.










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  • So why exactly do you need Camel for?
    – Oli
    Nov 12 '18 at 7:18










  • I thought of using it to orchestrating calls to DB and expose ReST services.
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 12 '18 at 8:48










  • You can pretty much do that with just spring boot (spring security, data, web, etc)... What are you missing so far that camel can provide?
    – Morfic
    Nov 12 '18 at 14:30










  • the missing part is the DSL and orchestration. I am not sure whether is camel routes is an overkill in such use cases!
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 12 '18 at 16:28
















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I am thinking of developing an application with Camel Routes - with SpringBoot. the nature of application is not merely application integration but this is an application to manage security roles against ROLES/ GROUPS for Resources.
Most use cases of camel routes indicates integration. But this is a case of pure application development which includes CRUD operations (dat stored in RDBMs) on Access Information and exposing these abilities as ReST services. Could you suggest whether is the approach good.










share|improve this question






















  • So why exactly do you need Camel for?
    – Oli
    Nov 12 '18 at 7:18










  • I thought of using it to orchestrating calls to DB and expose ReST services.
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 12 '18 at 8:48










  • You can pretty much do that with just spring boot (spring security, data, web, etc)... What are you missing so far that camel can provide?
    – Morfic
    Nov 12 '18 at 14:30










  • the missing part is the DSL and orchestration. I am not sure whether is camel routes is an overkill in such use cases!
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 12 '18 at 16:28














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I am thinking of developing an application with Camel Routes - with SpringBoot. the nature of application is not merely application integration but this is an application to manage security roles against ROLES/ GROUPS for Resources.
Most use cases of camel routes indicates integration. But this is a case of pure application development which includes CRUD operations (dat stored in RDBMs) on Access Information and exposing these abilities as ReST services. Could you suggest whether is the approach good.










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I am thinking of developing an application with Camel Routes - with SpringBoot. the nature of application is not merely application integration but this is an application to manage security roles against ROLES/ GROUPS for Resources.
Most use cases of camel routes indicates integration. But this is a case of pure application development which includes CRUD operations (dat stored in RDBMs) on Access Information and exposing these abilities as ReST services. Could you suggest whether is the approach good.







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  • So why exactly do you need Camel for?
    – Oli
    Nov 12 '18 at 7:18










  • I thought of using it to orchestrating calls to DB and expose ReST services.
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 12 '18 at 8:48










  • You can pretty much do that with just spring boot (spring security, data, web, etc)... What are you missing so far that camel can provide?
    – Morfic
    Nov 12 '18 at 14:30










  • the missing part is the DSL and orchestration. I am not sure whether is camel routes is an overkill in such use cases!
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 12 '18 at 16:28


















  • So why exactly do you need Camel for?
    – Oli
    Nov 12 '18 at 7:18










  • I thought of using it to orchestrating calls to DB and expose ReST services.
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 12 '18 at 8:48










  • You can pretty much do that with just spring boot (spring security, data, web, etc)... What are you missing so far that camel can provide?
    – Morfic
    Nov 12 '18 at 14:30










  • the missing part is the DSL and orchestration. I am not sure whether is camel routes is an overkill in such use cases!
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 12 '18 at 16:28
















So why exactly do you need Camel for?
– Oli
Nov 12 '18 at 7:18




So why exactly do you need Camel for?
– Oli
Nov 12 '18 at 7:18












I thought of using it to orchestrating calls to DB and expose ReST services.
– Sony Joseph
Nov 12 '18 at 8:48




I thought of using it to orchestrating calls to DB and expose ReST services.
– Sony Joseph
Nov 12 '18 at 8:48












You can pretty much do that with just spring boot (spring security, data, web, etc)... What are you missing so far that camel can provide?
– Morfic
Nov 12 '18 at 14:30




You can pretty much do that with just spring boot (spring security, data, web, etc)... What are you missing so far that camel can provide?
– Morfic
Nov 12 '18 at 14:30












the missing part is the DSL and orchestration. I am not sure whether is camel routes is an overkill in such use cases!
– Sony Joseph
Nov 12 '18 at 16:28




the missing part is the DSL and orchestration. I am not sure whether is camel routes is an overkill in such use cases!
– Sony Joseph
Nov 12 '18 at 16:28












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I think that Camel is to big for such things. It is possible that you have more problems then advantages, because Camel use a lot of 'magic' that you don't see and need to do some research to find out how exactly some components work. The tests are another issue, you must use Camel test libraries, so you have more complexity to do the same tests.






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  • if we are able to manage the unit test and other 'magic' stuff then it should be a good to go? The point is that the DSL mostly is self-explanatory about the program flow.
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I think that Camel is to big for such things. It is possible that you have more problems then advantages, because Camel use a lot of 'magic' that you don't see and need to do some research to find out how exactly some components work. The tests are another issue, you must use Camel test libraries, so you have more complexity to do the same tests.






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  • if we are able to manage the unit test and other 'magic' stuff then it should be a good to go? The point is that the DSL mostly is self-explanatory about the program flow.
    – Sony Joseph
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I think that Camel is to big for such things. It is possible that you have more problems then advantages, because Camel use a lot of 'magic' that you don't see and need to do some research to find out how exactly some components work. The tests are another issue, you must use Camel test libraries, so you have more complexity to do the same tests.






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  • if we are able to manage the unit test and other 'magic' stuff then it should be a good to go? The point is that the DSL mostly is self-explanatory about the program flow.
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 12 '18 at 11:09










  • Do we have any more suggestions
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 16 '18 at 14:10














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I think that Camel is to big for such things. It is possible that you have more problems then advantages, because Camel use a lot of 'magic' that you don't see and need to do some research to find out how exactly some components work. The tests are another issue, you must use Camel test libraries, so you have more complexity to do the same tests.






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I think that Camel is to big for such things. It is possible that you have more problems then advantages, because Camel use a lot of 'magic' that you don't see and need to do some research to find out how exactly some components work. The tests are another issue, you must use Camel test libraries, so you have more complexity to do the same tests.







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  • if we are able to manage the unit test and other 'magic' stuff then it should be a good to go? The point is that the DSL mostly is self-explanatory about the program flow.
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  • if we are able to manage the unit test and other 'magic' stuff then it should be a good to go? The point is that the DSL mostly is self-explanatory about the program flow.
    – Sony Joseph
    Nov 12 '18 at 11:09










  • Do we have any more suggestions
    – Sony Joseph
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if we are able to manage the unit test and other 'magic' stuff then it should be a good to go? The point is that the DSL mostly is self-explanatory about the program flow.
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Nov 12 '18 at 11:09




if we are able to manage the unit test and other 'magic' stuff then it should be a good to go? The point is that the DSL mostly is self-explanatory about the program flow.
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